Kiesel Vader about to get smashed

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Kiesel Vader about to get smashed

Postby GuitarAnthony » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:50 pm

So I bought a used Vader with the whammy bar bridge.

Guy had 10's on it so I go to change them to 9's.

I watch the video how to change strings and it looks easy enough.

Ball ends are NOT sitting in the saddle. Every time I try they pop out. I'm worn down my thumb & index fingertips winding and unwinding when I think I've got it and it pops out again.

I'm not kidding. I like the Kiesel folks but I'm ready to go Townshend on this guitar.

Sorry, old friends. Needed to rant.

Will update whatever result I end up with.

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Postby spudmunkey » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:22 pm

It probably doesn't , but does this video showing how to change a saddle (which includes removing and replacing a string) help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHrk6tLJO_8

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Postby GuitarAnthony » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:21 pm

No idea what's wrong. Gonna bring it to the GC tomorrow & look like a f'n boomer all embarrassed that I cant figure out this bridge. Maybe the tech can figure it out for me. All out if 9's since strings snapped trying to do this string change.

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Re: Kiesel Vader about to get smashed

Postby GuitarAnthony » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:46 am

Smashing averted. Finally saw what the hell was going on. Stringing is now a joy.

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Re: Kiesel Vader about to get smashed

Postby harsh59 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:38 am

HULK SMASH STUPID GUI.....TAR HAHA . Man I know how you feel , been there .

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Postby Toptube » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:38 am

May the force be with you

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Re: Kiesel Vader about to get smashed

Postby GuitarAnthony » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:15 am

Been playing her all day and sounds great. Was gonna switch out the pups for some Fishmans but really no need to. Lithums sounding killer. May put gold Fishmans in my old V220 Nightburl if any of you long time forum cats remember that beauty.

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Postby ElfDude » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:26 am

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Postby spudmunkey » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:36 am

So what ended up being your breakthrough discovery?

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Re: Kiesel Vader about to get smashed

Postby GuitarAnthony » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:31 pm

spudmunkey wrote:So what ended up being your breakthrough discovery?


Seeing how I was trying to see how it caught without a flashlight I didn't see the screw that holds the tuners in was blocking the seat partially on the low E. Loosened the screw a bit and used a small screwdriver to make sure it was seated properly then did the pull the tuner out went merrily on my way.

After set up the way I like it I'm pretty happy. The bar is lower than I usually like but not like dive bombing is a need on this guitar.

I'd like to think my Kiesel Karma rose a few points as well. Guy had this on Reverb. Lowballed his initial price then said 'Eh, price isn't bad plus free shipping.' I know very well the cruelty of the Kiesel/Carvin used market. Someone had a fair price and I paid a fair price.

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Re: Kiesel Vader about to get smashed

Postby HarlowTheFish » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:48 pm

Hope you're enjoying it!
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Re: Kiesel Vader about to get smashed

Postby customaxe » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:39 am

GuitarAnthony wrote:
spudmunkey wrote:So what ended up being your breakthrough discovery?


Seeing how I was trying to see how it caught without a flashlight I didn't see the screw that holds the tuners in was blocking the seat partially on the low E. Loosened the screw a bit and used a small screwdriver to make sure it was seated properly then did the pull the tuner out went merrily on my way.

After set up the way I like it I'm pretty happy. The bar is lower than I usually like but not like dive bombing is a need on this guitar.

I'd like to think my Kiesel Karma rose a few points as well. Guy had this on Reverb. Lowballed his initial price then said 'Eh, price isn't bad plus free shipping.' I know very well the cruelty of the Kiesel/Carvin used market. Someone had a fair price and I paid a fair price.


Lotsa talk about a nice Vader but it seems there haven't been any pics posted... :naughty: share with the class!

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Re: Kiesel Vader about to get smashed

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:08 pm

customaxe wrote:
Lotsa talk about a nice Vader but it seems there haven't been any pics posted... :naughty: share with the class!



*gasp* How did we miss...

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Postby HarlowTheFish » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:10 pm

:cowbell: :cowbell: :cowbell:

We got him, lads!

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Re: Kiesel Vader about to get smashed

Postby GuitarAnthony » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:11 pm

Pics? What be these...pics...things? - whistles and looks away -

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