Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

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Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby spudmunkey » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:29 pm

Someone on FB noticed that the CT3 was gone from the guitar page, and after looking to confirm, I see the CT7 is retired, as well (even though the product line's description still says "6 & 7 string").

This month has been more impactful than I expected (& initially noticed!)

    - New JH6 model
    - New multiscale JB4 and JB5
    - Xcellerator bass is retired
    - 7-string Floyd Rose retired from the line up (the change to the LPM7 is not confirmed, though)
    - DC127-12 retired
    - CT3 variant of the CT line retired
    - CT7 retired
    - Price increase on some models
    - X220 retired
    - 6 string Floyd Rose removed as an option from CT, CS, and Solo
    - SH7 retired
    - Rosewood backplates and TRCs being discontinued
    - White Limba tops discontinued
    - Trans pearl pink, blue and green paints retired
    - H2 model retired (HF2 and HH2 still remain)
    - Hard cases discontinued except on pointy models

Any others I'm missing?
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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby Big Frank » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:00 pm

No more x220 either

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby spudmunkey » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:03 pm

Big Frank wrote:No more x220 either


Ahh,thanks. Added that to the original post.

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby sean.e » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:01 am

6 string Floyd Rose no longer available on CS and CT.

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:05 am

sean.e wrote:6 string Floyd Rose no longer available on CS and CT.


Added to the list. Someone else in FB mentioned the Solo, too.

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby adamag98 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:07 am

Maybe this was encompassed in the statement "CT3 variant removed", but there are no 22fret CTs, only 24.

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:12 am

adamag98 wrote:Maybe this was encompassed in the statement "CT3 variant removed", but there are no 22fret CTs, only 24.


Actually, yes there still is. The two thumbnails underneath the larger picture are both the 24 fret variants, but the largest picture, the Buckeye Burl ct-6, is the 22 fret version.

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby Tony PD » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:12 pm

Uh oh! PLEASE keep the CS3!!!

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby Doctor Doug » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:30 pm

Tony PD wrote:Uh oh! PLEASE keep the CS3!!!

!!!YES!!!

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:35 pm

What's the dif--one has a top of unfigured maple?
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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby arahobob » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:33 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:What's the dif--one has a top of unfigured maple?


Agree - I don't see what difference it would make to offer a CT with a standard top & solid color.
Unless they'll still offer it, just without a separate model distinction.
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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:27 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:What's the dif--one has a top of unfigured maple?


CT3: Solid wood without a top, or plain top.
CT6: Only with tops, flamed maple standard.

With the CT3 going away, the cheapest CT6 you can get is the model with the flamed maple top. They were not rolled together into one model, like how the CT4 and CT3 were combined before. Now the CT is like the SH6, and how the SH550 launched.

I really don't get why they couldn't just make it "The CT line" kinda like "The DC line", and just include the plain wood tops. It's not like it requires a separate CNC program.

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:43 pm

That was why I was asking--why would you stop selling plain tops, especially for people who want opaque finished guitars, ie solid colors. You're going to build into the price the cost of a 4a maple top that won't show thru??

Seems bizarre. Or maybe I'm not catching the way that a plain paint job CT6 (if such a beast exists) will have a lesser cost than a CT6 with clear poly laquer or standard, inexpensive standard trans burst or single color but a figured top. :think:
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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:22 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:That was why I was asking--why would you stop selling plain tops, especially for people who want opaque finished guitars, ie solid colors. You're going to build into the price the cost of a 4a maple top that won't show thru??

Seems bizarre. Or maybe I'm not catching the way that a plain paint job CT6 (if such a beast exists) will have a lesser cost than a CT6 with clear poly laquer or standard, inexpensive standard trans burst or single color but a figured top. :think:


I assume it's the same as when they got rid of the Icon S (both times) years ago, when the SH550 was launched (until they came out with the cedar-topped model after a few years), and the new SH6 (which was even photographed in solid Lambo Blue as one of the first completed builds)...if you want a simple solid color, you pay the full price plus waive the 10-day. You'll still get the flamed maple under the paint in case you want to refinish later, or if you want the flamed BBE...but there't no discount. :roll:

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:45 pm

I'd use the J. luc Picard facepalm, but it's too played out (and obvious).
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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby dbone » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:19 pm

So much for easing up on the bedazzling. Dead Pool would not approve.
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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:39 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:I'd use the J. luc Picard facepalm, but it's too played out (and obvious).

He has so many good, and appropriate reactions though, thankfully.

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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby bonga_rascal » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:40 am

This is odd. I recently read on a Facebook post that the reason they can do a CT3 is that they get mahogany thick enough to use on carve top guitars. I honestly don't understand the rationale behind discontinuing the CT3 series of guitars, especially when they still sell the CS3 series of guitars.

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Postby wickid » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:33 am

bonga_rascal wrote:This is odd. I recently read on a Facebook post that the reason they can do a CT3 is that they get mahogany thick enough to use on carve top guitars. I honestly don't understand the rationale behind discontinuing the CT3 series of guitars, especially when they still sell the CS3 series of guitars.


Maybe that's the issue. Lately its all about the figured top bling, and demand is too low for the thick mahog blanks, so they don't want to stock them? (But yeah, the CS3 doesn't make sense out of it. I hope for the best for the CS3 fans.)
If you follow this logic, why even sell 6 string guitars (or even 7), when you get 6 "for free" when you buy a 7???
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When I 1st saw this thread, I was recalling the scene in Saving Private Ryan where the Germans were announcing over a loud speaker "The Statue of Liberty is kaput!". :evil: :lol:
Next Spuds is gonna tell us we *HAVE* to get cheese on our hamburger. :evil: (Lithium cheese, at that.)
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Re: Updates to the CT line: No more "3" model, and no more CT7.

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:35 am

I suppose it's no surprise, then, with the CT7 gone, that so is the SH7.


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