DC145 Refinish [pic heavy]

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DC145 Refinish [pic heavy]

Postby Troxy88 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:50 pm

Hello All!

I've been in the beginnings of refinishing my DC145. For some reason a few years back the poly started lifting off of the wood. I'm chalking that up to playing outdoors and garages a lot. It was stored in the case for a few years after I left for college.

This was her in her prime

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After about 6 or 7 years I started to notice this. I couldn't take it anymore at this point.

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So I used a heat gun to remove the polly. It came off nicely.

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Did some sanding

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Being pretty bummed about the logo I spent some time trying to replicate it as close as I could. I plan to create a water slide from this. (hope I'm not breaking any rules. If I am let me know. I'll take this down.)

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The plan is to use transtint orange dye to get a nice orange color on that maple cap. Then finish it with truoil. Going for something similar to this, except on quilted maple of course.

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After that is done it will be getting a new bladerunner super vee tremolo.
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A Seymour Duncan Perpetual Burn in the bridge position
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Seymour Duncan P-Rail in the neck. I'm keeping the AP11 in the middle because it's sweet.

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All that being said any thoughts? I haven't totally committed yet because I'm waiting to hear if Carvin will do a refinish for me. But I'm not sure I want to wait any longer. EDIT: Also not sure I'll be able to afford them to refinish it because I'm buying a darn Numbers guitar and I don't care what my wife says.

When I do kick into high gear I'll keep this thread updated with photos of the process.

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Postby Coda » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:08 am

:coolpics:

Well this is going in a nice direction! I read somewhere that Carvin's refinishes run about $500, but don't quote me on that.

It's amazing seeing all those layers come off. How far did you get with the front - did you sand off all the black stain? The finish on the PRS looks like it has a dark red as the base stain, deep in the grain for the highlights, with the orange on top. With the great quilt on yours, I highly recommend staying with the 'DTS' approach - something i've always wanted to try.

I don't think you'll get any noise for posting/using that Carvin logo. (Now if you were going to rebrand it as a Kiesel, well...:evil: )

Welcome to the BBS, BTW! I look forward to hearing what others have to say and what direction you plan to go in. No such thing as too many pictures!

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Postby Les Knopflerongo » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:20 am

Wow, that's impressive. From what you've described, it'll look awesome when you're done with it!

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Postby ElfDude » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:39 am

Very cool project! Looking forward to the updates.
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Postby Randy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:53 am

I LOVE these kinds of projects! Thanks for sharing the progress with us :D

Really looking forward to more progress photos ;)

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Postby Troxy88 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:15 pm

Coda wrote::coolpics:

Well this is going in a nice direction! I read somewhere that Carvin's refinishes run about $500, but don't quote me on that.

It's amazing seeing all those layers come off. How far did you get with the front - did you sand off all the black stain? The finish on the PRS looks like it has a dark red as the base stain, deep in the grain for the highlights, with the orange on top. With the great quilt on yours, I highly recommend staying with the 'DTS' approach - something i've always wanted to try.

I don't think you'll get any noise for posting/using that Carvin logo. (Now if you were going to rebrand it as a Kiesel, well...:evil: )

Welcome to the BBS, BTW! I look forward to hearing what others have to say and what direction you plan to go in. No such thing as too many pictures!

:D :D :D :D :D


Thanks for the welcome! I was actually an activeish member back in 2004 or so. Unfortunately I can't remember my old username or e-mail.

This is an accurate picture of the top. I feel like there should be enough black left in the grain to keep the DTS feel. Also think I'm going to build up the orange. Do a coat of dye, sand, do another coat, sand, etc... etc... Probably do a really dark orange (dye heavy in the solution) and step it back for later coats.

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I was worried about the logo because it is a really close high resolution replication. I didn't figure it would be a big deal though.

Some more logo stuff:

This is white (with no background)' download it to check it out.
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This is me playing with a drop shadow idea on the black with an orange background.

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Postby Troxy88 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:47 pm

We'll call this installment "Biting the bullet".

This is the first coat of dye. I used denatured alcohol and transtint orange dye only. Still really rough; but I'm digging the color. Thoughts?

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Postby Troxy88 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:07 pm

Little headstock rendering

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Postby Coda » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:01 am

Just brainstorming here, but after another sanding I could see hitting it with a wash of yellow to pop the light parts and provide dimension. If you're feeling crazy you could do a burst treatment to the edges with a deep orange-red.

What are you going to use as a top coat?
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Postby Wannabe » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:37 am

Wow! That is gonna look awesome. I did about the same thing, but I wanted a cool top but mine didn't have it. So I cut the top down and added a quilted cherry top. I call mine the beast;
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But I could not find a Carvin logo. And Carvin would not sell me one. (I cried that day. Almost like being disowned by my own family. :( )

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Postby Troxy88 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:40 pm

Coda wrote:Just brainstorming here, but after another sanding I could see hitting it with a wash of yellow to pop the light parts and provide dimension. If you're feeling crazy you could do a burst treatment to the edges with a deep orange-red.

What are you going to use as a top coat?


That's funny; I just got back from the woodcraft store because i wanted to grab some yellow dye to do just this.

Also. I noticed some sloppiness around the neck joint area and nut. It wasn't sanded as much as I had thought originally. So I picked up a Sanding Detailer. This should really make that sanding detail work much better.


I thought about having a dark orange burst but I'm not confident in my skills. I think I'm just going to try and stick a solid color.

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Postby Troxy88 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:41 pm

Wannabe wrote:Wow! That is gonna look awesome. I did about the same thing, but I wanted a cool top but mine didn't have it. So I cut the top down and added a quilted cherry top. I call mine the beast;

But I could not find a Carvin logo. And Carvin would not sell me one. (I cried that day. Almost like being disowned by my own family. :( )


That's a pretty guitar man. I agree on the logo thing. Luckily I have some pretty decent Photoshop/illustrator skills and was able to put that together from some photos I found.

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Postby Troxy88 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:52 pm

Troxy88 wrote:
Coda wrote:Just brainstorming here, but after another sanding I could see hitting it with a wash of yellow to pop the light parts and provide dimension. If you're feeling crazy you could do a burst treatment to the edges with a deep orange-red.

What are you going to use as a top coat?


That's funny; I just got back from the woodcraft store because i wanted to grab some yellow dye to do just this.

Also. I noticed some sloppiness around the neck joint area and nut. It wasn't sanded as much as I had thought originally. So I picked up a Sanding Detailer. This should really make that sanding detail work much better.


I thought about having a dark orange burst but I'm not confident in my skills. I think I'm just going to try and stick a solid color.


Also; top coat will be Tru-oil

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Postby Troxy88 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:07 pm

Tonight's installment.

hit it with some 220 grit. Took it down to get some nice light spots. Mixed some orange and yellow transtint with my denatured alcohol.

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Postby Troxy88 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:08 pm

REALLY pleased with the color at this point. Not sure what I want to do next.

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Postby ElfDude » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:15 pm

Troxy88 wrote:REALLY pleased with the color at this point.


Yeah, that's really beautiful!
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Postby Coda » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:50 am

Nailed it!
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It looks like glowing lava!
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Postby tbonesullivan » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:06 pm

I like it!!
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Postby Troxy88 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:48 pm

First coat of Birchwood Casey Sealer and Filler.

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Postby Troxy88 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:04 pm

Honestly I'm a little dissatisfied with this. Maybe it will get a lot better with some sanding but there's dust and runs and stuff. I'm going to have to get a better way to apply this. I held the guitar the entire time. I need a vice or something.


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