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re: DC145 Refinish [pic heavy]

Postby Toptube » Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:01 am

if you are wiping it on by hand, you will probably have to sand out runs and drips after every coat. Since wiping usually results in a thing coat, you could probably sand after every two coats. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.
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Postby Troxy88 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:31 pm

Not much has changed tonight.

I sanded down the Birchwood Casey Sealer and Filler with 400 grit paper. Actually went to deep in some spots and hit my dye job. That really sucks. I tried to do another coat of dye but I guess the sealer/filler did it's job and the wood isn't really taking dye anymore.

I'm debating on hitting it with another coat of sealer/filler before moving on to the truoil. I'm beginning to regret not just going the spray direction.

It's really hazy right now but I'm guessing that's because of the sanding? I'm hoping that it brightens up when I start with the tru oil...

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Postby Troxy88 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:37 pm

Put on another coat of sealer and filler tonight.

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Postby spudmunkey » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:48 pm

400 grit is still a bit rough if you're looking for a final finish. For example, I recently did some touch up on a glossy finish headstock. In the end for the final passes, I used some micro mesh pads that stepped up to 10,000 "grit" i believe.

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Postby Troxy88 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:52 pm

Not quite to final finish steps. Probably going to hit this most recent sealer/filler with 800 grit to level the runs and imperfections. Then I'll start with the tru oil.

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Postby Troxy88 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:07 am

Okay, So I decided to take it down a little more than I expected to get impurities out and really level the wood and get rid of sanding scratches. I took it down to 320 then 600 and finished with 800. Then hit it with fine scotch bright. Lastly I hit it with a set of orage/yellow mix, let that dry and washed it down with a strong yellow. I think this is the final dye before doing the clear coat.

I'm worried about doing the tru oil so I've reached out to a local luthier to get a price on clear coating this thing for me.

Cool thing about the color is it really changes depending on the angle and lighting.

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Postby amispy » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:48 am

It's coming out great.
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Postby Les Knopflerongo » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:06 am

Yeah, that looks great! 8)
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Postby Troxy88 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:37 am

Thanks guys. I'm really pleased with it.

I feel like this piece deserved a brighter color instead of a muted trans black. I was a metal kid back in the day though :mrgreen:

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Postby japhy » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:39 am

WHOA... I saw the start of this thread, and to be honest, I wasn't expecting a positive outcome, but DAY-UM! That is fantastic. If that headstock logo works out like your render, that will be incredible.

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Postby ElfDude » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:14 am

Troxy88 wrote:
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Postby Troxy88 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:47 am

I used to get that a lot. Now I'm bearded and kind of fat. Unfortunately I get more Jack Black comparisons these days.

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Postby Troxy88 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:48 am

japhy wrote:WHOA... I saw the start of this thread, and to be honest, I wasn't expecting a positive outcome, but DAY-UM! That is fantastic. If that headstock logo works out like your render, that will be incredible.


You and me both. I'm cautiously optimistic though.

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Postby ElfDude » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:11 am

Troxy88 wrote:I used to get that a lot. Now I'm bearded and kind of fat. Unfortunately I get more Jack Black comparisons these days.


Comparisons about me aren't nearly as complimentary as they were in the past either. :lol:
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Postby Troxy88 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:52 pm

SO!

I have done some calculations and from what I've gathered I'm going to be doing the truoil finish unless someone gives me a dirt cheap price on a clear coat (I'm talking less than $150).

After totaling up my parts list I've decided it would be good for me to try and do the truoil finish myself.

here's what I'm planning on buying to redo the wiring/PU's and tremolo.

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Postby gjacob » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:33 am

Have you considered SprayMax 2K for the top coat? It is a catalyzed urethane in rattle cans. You would need to make sure it is compatible with your sealer. You can usually find it locally for about $25/can.

I used that on a Warmoth body and it worked great. It flashes quickly and allows you to build a high-gloss finish quickly. I only needed one can (bought 2 just in case) and buffed it out a couple weeks later. Couldn't be happier.
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Postby Troxy88 » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:57 pm

I haven't considered it. I'm honestly just scared of spraying the guitar.

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Postby 393clevor » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:24 am

That's for posting this as I am stripping my Lb Bass.. I wonder how it would look and work with tung oil over the die you used..

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Postby Troxy88 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:51 am

393clevor wrote:That's for posting this as I am stripping my Lb Bass.. I wonder how it would look and work with tung oil over the die you used..


I'm bringing back a dead thread ladies and gents!!!!

It is my understanding that tung oil doesn't work great over the trans tin dyes.

I have no idea if that's true or not. Take it with a grain of salt.

Update pictures will be dropped in a few.

It isn't finished yet, but it's getting close.

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Postby Troxy88 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:09 pm

So, long time no updates!

Sorry, the last year has been busy and I put this project on hold.

Instead I worked on an entertainment center build.

Check it out. The wife even let me put the new Carvin on it :mrgreen:

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I had a year to think about this project. In the end I decided to suck it up and spray it myself.

I bought a cheap harbor freight spray gun. Some Behlen Nitro Lacquer and their Vinyl Sealer.

Here's the guitar after the first coat of nitro (sealer had already been applied).

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Here are the decals I made using photoshop.

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Third coat of nitro:

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Headstock close ups:

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Considering this is my first time spraying anything I'm pleased with where I'm at at this point. I've got ~6 more coats of nitro to lay down before I let it set to cure for a while.

I've also devised some out of the ordinary wiring. So stay tuned for that as well. I bought a custom wiring diagram from a website but they haven't gotten back to me yet. If what they give me is good (if they ever send it, IT'S BEEN A WEEK!) I'll give them a little plug.


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