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Can you use alcohol based dyes over a tung oil finish ?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:16 am
by SomeGuitarGuy
OK so i have a bolt neck that i had kiesel finish with tung oil about two years ago my question is can i use alcohol based dyes like Angelus leather dyes over the tung oil without any significant problems or would i have to sand off the tung oil to expose the wood grain my plan is to dye it red then either clear coat over that or use tung oil as a finish thanks in advance.

Re: Can you use alcohol based dyes over a tung oil finish ?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:31 am
by MichaelGA
You would have to sand down to the bare wood to dye your guitar. Those angelus leather dyes work great! Very strong colors!

Michael

Re: Can you use alcohol based dyes over a tung oil finish ?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:41 am
by SomeGuitarGuy
would it be possible to remove the tung oil finish without sanding ?

Re: Can you use alcohol based dyes over a tung oil finish ?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:42 am
by MichaelGA
I don't know. An internet search may reveal other methods.

Re: Can you use alcohol based dyes over a tung oil finish ?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:20 am
by skully13a
Sanding is really the only way. It doesn't penetrate deeply, though.

Re: Can you use alcohol based dyes over a tung oil finish ?

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:15 am
by SomeGuitarGuy
yea i think iv changed my mind about dyeing the hole neck ill be just be dyeing the top of the headstock instead to match the body that it will be going on

Re: Can you use alcohol based dyes over a tung oil finish ?

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:19 pm
by ilyti
SomeGuitarGuy wrote:yea i think iv changed my mind about dyeing the hole neck ill be just be dyeing the top of the headstock instead to match the body that it will be going on

Good call. But just to let you know, sanding the tung oil off the whole neck wouldn't take you long at all. Start with ~80 grit to get the finish off, then maybe 150 and finish up with something in the 300 range to smooth it back up and you should be done in 30 minutes. Then you can apply whatever finish you want. With painted gloss necks there's so much more stuff to get through.