Vader trem string change?

Official Forum for Tech Support from Kiesel Guitars Specialists

Moderators: Kevio, ElfDude, JesseM, RockCrue, soundchick, ChrisH, peb, Mike Jones, Bundy, Albert C

leonthecheeseman
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 2
Joined: Sep 2019

Vader trem string change?

Postby leonthecheeseman » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:38 am

what is the recommended way to change the strings on a Vader with the Kiesel Hipshot trem? i tried to do it myself once and the trem ended up getting stuck and had to have someone else fix it

HarlowTheFish
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Posts: 459
Joined: May 2018
Location: Hudson Valley

Re: Vader trem string change?

Postby HarlowTheFish » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:08 am

put something like a deck of cards between the body and the bottom of the trem, then loosen all the strings before taking them off at the headpiece, then taking them out of the claw at the bridge. If you did this right, the deck of cards or whatever you put in there will keep the trem from moving too much from the position it's already in.
Put in your new strings, one at a time, but putting the ball end into the claw at the bridge and pushing it in with an Allen key or something. Hold it in there, pull it tight through the headpiece, trim, and then pull it back just enough that there's no sharp ends poking out before locking it in at the headpiece and tightening it enough to hold the string in at the bridge.
Tune up, and balance if you have to by tightening the screws holding the trem springs at the back of the guitar. If you're using the same string gauge, you shouldn't have to do much to balance it out, but if you're changing gauge, you might have to do some more work.
When you have it roughly balanced, take out the deck of cards or whatever you put in and level out the trem so it's parallel to the top of your guitar. After this, you should be good to go.

leonthecheeseman
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 2
Joined: Sep 2019

Re: Vader trem string change?

Postby leonthecheeseman » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:40 pm

Ive never balanced out the trem spring screws before, how do i know when they're balanced correctly/incorrectly?

HarlowTheFish
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Posts: 459
Joined: May 2018
Location: Hudson Valley

Re: Vader trem string change?

Postby HarlowTheFish » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:26 pm

You want to have the same amount of pull on the strings as you do on the springs. The trem will be flat, parallel to the top of the guitar. Just start on the bass side spring, go for a little bit, then do the treble spring for a bit, then retune. It's a bit time-intensive just because you shouldn't go too fast, but once it's set as long as you use the same gauge strings you shouldn't really have to mess with it anymore.

User avatar
ioneater
Carvinite
Carvinite
Posts: 751
Joined: Jun 2011
Location: Gulfport

Re: Vader trem string change?

Postby ioneater » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:12 pm

You can also remove and install one string at a time until you get the hang of it. You can block the Trem like mentioned above and if something slips at least the Trem won't slap against the body or your fingers. Having the other strings still in place will help counter the spring tension.


Return to Customer Service & Technical Support

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests