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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:52 am

Casual Madman wrote:I'll throw in a few I like who haven't been mentioned yet:

John Paul Jones - Just as important to defining the Zeppelin's sound as Bonham's drumming
Jon Entwhistle - Possibly the first "lead bassist"
Lemmy - 'nuff said
Rob Grange - His phased bass lines added depth and character to Uncle Ted's inspired wankery

Last but not least, Carvin/Kiesel signature endorsee, Roy Vogt. I first heard Roy at the old McBride's Music & Pawn on the square in Denton TX, while he was in the jazz program North Texas State U - he was test-driving an Alembic bass, playing DiMeola's "Race with Devil on Spanish Highway." Even a 16-year-old garage band guy could see, Roy was something special.


Could you post a good example track from youtube of Rob, and also of Roy? :)
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby Casual Madman » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:55 am

gumbynotpokey wrote:
Casual Madman wrote:I'll throw in a few I like who haven't been mentioned yet:

Rob Grange - His phased bass lines added depth and character to Uncle Ted's inspired wankery

Last but not least, Carvin/Kiesel signature endorsee, Roy Vogt. I first heard Roy at the old McBride's Music & Pawn on the square in Denton TX, while he was in the jazz program North Texas State U - he was test-driving an Alembic bass, playing DiMeola's "Race with Devil on Spanish Highway." Even a 16-year-old garage band guy could see, Roy was something special.


Could you post a good example track from youtube of Rob, and also of Roy? :)


This is my 2nd-favorite Nugent tune - soaring vocals courtesy of Meat Loaf, a beautifully-composed solo by Uncle Ted, and that sinuous, silky phased bass line driving the bus. Also in the conversation for first "power ballad" (came out about the same time as Styx's "Babe").

https://youtu.be/lpRIw-k1QcI

This clip of Roy was a promo for a lesson series (and also pretty much a Carvin ad), but it's got some great playing. Roy has moved up to six-strings mostly these days - check his killer jazz project, Urban Legend.

https://youtu.be/pu33DTdNEkw

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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:17 pm

Casual Madman wrote:
gumbynotpokey wrote:
Casual Madman wrote:I'll throw in a few I like who haven't been mentioned yet:

Rob Grange - His phased bass lines added depth and character to Uncle Ted's inspired wankery

Last but not least, Carvin/Kiesel signature endorsee, Roy Vogt. I first heard Roy at the old McBride's Music & Pawn on the square in Denton TX, while he was in the jazz program North Texas State U - he was test-driving an Alembic bass, playing DiMeola's "Race with Devil on Spanish Highway." Even a 16-year-old garage band guy could see, Roy was something special.


Could you post a good example track from youtube of Rob, and also of Roy? :)


This is my 2nd-favorite Nugent tune - soaring vocals courtesy of Meat Loaf, a beautifully-composed solo by Uncle Ted, and that sinuous, silky phased bass line driving the bus. Also in the conversation for first "power ballad" (came out about the same time as Styx's "Babe").

https://youtu.be/lpRIw-k1QcI

This clip of Roy was a promo for a lesson series (and also pretty much a Carvin ad), but it's got some great playing. Roy has moved up to six-strings mostly these days - check his killer jazz project, Urban Legend.

https://youtu.be/pu33DTdNEkw


Wow. Both are great. Thanks much.

From both the highlight for me is the right hand technique (thumb placement) Roy uses from 1:00-1:15.
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:20 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:Charles Mingus, but primarily for his compositions rather than his playing (which was superb in any case).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3blRYHUdhOQ

Patrick O'Hearn, for a lot of things but sealed via his double bass perf here in The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution. The whole song is just insane but I loaded in the time for his impossible bass solo in that song in that link in the sentence. Here's a link for the whole song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myBbd1Bs_5A&feature=youtu.be

Peter Warren, owing mostly to his work with DeJohnette's Special Edition, like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QG6DA9Y8QI

This whole "Bass Is" album he did for ECM in the 70's, really encapsulates that post-bop experimental vibe in NYC back in that day. Someone uploaded the whole album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwwWyICNRtM

An unexpected listing I'll make my last (because I could go on and on):

Jimi Hendrix, who often played bass himself in the studio on his albums. My absolute favorite song of all time by Jimi also features him on bass, some percussion (Mitch on drums), and sharing panning and fading duties on the board with Eddie Kramer during mastering. Also probably one of the most famous uses of the old Hagstrom 8 string bass.. some of the accents with bass that sound like guitar is playing along with it is actually the octaves on each bass string (like a 12 string guitar):
https://vimeo.com/208085174


Funny about Mingus - I'm the opposite (prefer his playing to his compositions). That said he's got 3 albums in my always-on-at-work jazz list (ipod/Bose) that rotates.

Couldn't agree more about Hendrix. Great point.

The post-bop stuff was a trip. Many thanks.
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby Doctor Doug » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:53 pm

Steve Harris because he's Steve Harris.
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby gumbynotpokey » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:50 am

Doctor Doug wrote:Steve Harris because he's Steve Harris.


For what it's worth I couldn't agree more.

A bit over 30 years ago I worked like a dog to keep up with him on some of their records. And to lock in on riffs. Probably no bass player's parts taught me to lock in and alternate fingers - that is, play fingerstyle successfully - like Steve Harris.
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby ElfDude » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:38 am

A bit obvious perhaps, but:

Chris Squire
Geddy Lee
Victor Wooten

I can't can't imagine that explanation is needed for any of them. :)
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:23 pm

gumbynotpokey wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:Charles Mingus, but primarily for his compositions rather than his playing (which was superb in any case).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3blRYHUdhOQ

Patrick O'Hearn, for a lot of things but sealed via his double bass perf here in The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution. The whole song is just insane but I loaded in the time for his impossible bass solo in that song in that link in the sentence. Here's a link for the whole song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myBbd1Bs_5A&feature=youtu.be

Peter Warren, owing mostly to his work with DeJohnette's Special Edition, like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QG6DA9Y8QI

This whole "Bass Is" album he did for ECM in the 70's, really encapsulates that post-bop experimental vibe in NYC back in that day. Someone uploaded the whole album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwwWyICNRtM

An unexpected listing I'll make my last (because I could go on and on):

Jimi Hendrix, who often played bass himself in the studio on his albums. My absolute favorite song of all time by Jimi also features him on bass, some percussion (Mitch on drums), and sharing panning and fading duties on the board with Eddie Kramer during mastering. Also probably one of the most famous uses of the old Hagstrom 8 string bass.. some of the accents with bass that sound like guitar is playing along with it is actually the octaves on each bass string (like a 12 string guitar):
https://vimeo.com/208085174


Funny about Mingus - I'm the opposite (prefer his playing to his compositions). That said he's got 3 albums in my always-on-at-work jazz list (ipod/Bose) that rotates.

Couldn't agree more about Hendrix. Great point.

The post-bop stuff was a trip. Many thanks.


I'm glad you liked it. Peter Warren was an imaginative player, and had a hell of a groove to boot. My favorite playing by him is Dejohnette's/Special Edition's take on Coltrane's India. Just incredible on all fronts.. it's one of my favorite songs of all time. :

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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby gumbynotpokey » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:37 pm

ElfDude wrote:A bit obvious perhaps, but:

Chris Squire
Geddy Lee
Victor Wooten

I can't can't imagine that explanation is needed for any of them. :)


and yet, on the other hand, i love to extract people's specific thinking, and consider it.

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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby Doctor Doug » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:36 am

gumbynotpokey wrote:
Doctor Doug wrote:Steve Harris because he's Steve Harris.


For what it's worth I couldn't agree more.

A bit over 30 years ago I worked like a dog to keep up with him on some of their records. And to lock in on riffs. Probably no bass player's parts taught me to lock in and alternate fingers - that is, play fingerstyle successfully - like Steve Harris.


And on top of hat, the great songwriting and stage presence to boot. The whole package.
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby gumbynotpokey » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:32 pm

Doctor Doug wrote:
gumbynotpokey wrote:
Doctor Doug wrote:Steve Harris because he's Steve Harris.


For what it's worth I couldn't agree more.

A bit over 30 years ago I worked like a dog to keep up with him on some of their records. And to lock in on riffs. Probably no bass player's parts taught me to lock in and alternate fingers - that is, play fingerstyle successfully - like Steve Harris.


And on top of hat, the great songwriting and stage presence to boot. The whole package.


...and everyone said, "Amen!" (but not in a Rule C-violating sense)
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Postby wickid » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:14 am


Ditto on the awesomeness that has floored me about Steve Harris. I'm a big 'Maiden fan.
Theres also another bass player I saw on a G3 tour many, many moons ago with Vai, Satch, and Eric Johnson. I cannot recall his name, and its been bugging me for the past few days. I don't think he's been mentioned, as I didnt have any aha :idea: moments reading thru this thread. He did a 2-hand tap rendition of the Charlie Brown "Linus and Lucy" riff that just blew me away. :shock:
Actually it made me wanna shuffle my feet, shrug my shoulders, and shift left and right. :mrgreen:

... I may have found it - I think it was Stu Hamm.
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:33 am

Stu's a bass beast, for sure! For some reason he tends not to come to mind when I try to think of bassists, but always happy to see his name on something. On those lame (and yet...I buy them...) Merry Axe-mas holiday music compillations, his songs are some of my favorites. His "Sleighride" always puts a child-like grin on my face.

Yes, I'm one of those weirdos who likes the occasional holiday song (but I do still have standards...no "All I want for Christmas is you" and no dogs barking "Jingle Bells." :lol: !)

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Postby wickid » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:01 am


/\ TOO SOON!! Its only October dammit!! :evil:
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Postby ElfDude » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:40 pm

Yeah, Stu Hamm is pretty awesome.

Got him to sign a G3 DVD of mine at a clinic a couple of years ago.
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:39 am

Another bass player I love to listen to is Ron Carter. If you can't hear his playing in your head, you should seriously give these a listen. It's worth the time for the exposure.

Taste is taste, and I do recognize that. Some things I love about his playing overall:
*technique is more like piano right hand and percussion, combined, played in the bass register.
*note choices are super, super sick
*on the slowest numbers with the least going on, he remains super sick in his choices and feel

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1) Here he is on one of my very top favorite records of all time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN-hXbeI6vQ

2) Another example of his super sick choices:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ11cArknek

3) Stripped down and slow on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM854xK2w7Q

Sorry for using "super sick" as my descriptor. But he is, super sick. With him words escape me. :)

Anyone that hasn't really listened hard to Ron Carter and checks these out - drop a line or two (pun intended) about what you dig.
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Postby Bliff Curton » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:31 am

Steve Stills of CSNY.
He did the bass track on Wooden Ships and some others.
Very musical

Jimmi Hendrix.
He rerecorded the bass track of Watchtower and I think it is an amazing lil ditty that Ive never been able to match.

Anthony Jackson.
Madonna’s Like A Prayer.

Cliff Burton.
My first obsession and who got me into the bass instead of the guitar.
Ive always wanted to be able to play Disposable Heros the way he plays.

Jason Newstead.
My favorite tones and amazing use of double-stops.
Astronomy, and all of Load are his best work.

Geezer Butler
I honed my techniques based on his playing. Very aggressive and yet musical. Meat and Potatoes kind of style.
He does variations on the same phrase just like Cliff Burton, like a bassplayer with ADD/HD

The bassplayer from Van Halen.
Another respectable meat-and-potatoes player that just plays the right notes and drives the band very well.

Xavier Rudd’s bassplayer.
I want his sound.
Very lively playing while living in the pocket.

John Myung.
His work on Images and Words as well as his instructional video always pushed me to play better. Solar Groove is something I play on every bass that I try out.

Moe from Canned Heat.
Amazing energy. Classically trained yet explorative (psychedelics)
I love playing along to their Fried Hockey Boogie.

Ted Lundstrom
Does great work in Scandinavian Metal.

The bassplayer from Garbage.
His playing always challenges and inspires/motivates me.

The player from Ten Years After.
Awesome energy. Influenced my technique and style as well.

Flea’s work on Jagged Little Pill is epic and way underrated.

Steffan of DMB
Awesome, free-spirited playing coming from classical training.

Krishna Das’ bassplayer.
Another meat-and-potatoes player who just sits in the groove and plays only the notes that the song needs.

Tony Levin.
In The Air Tonight, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, his solo stuff - all of it amazing.
Im so glad I got to see him live back in the late-2000’s. Just a groove master. Very down to earth too.

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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:35 pm

Bliff Curton wrote:Steve Stills of CSNY.
He did the bass track on Wooden Ships and some others.
Very musical

Jimmi Hendrix.
He rerecorded the bass track of Watchtower and I think it is an amazing lil ditty that Ive never been able to match.

Anthony Jackson.
Madonna’s Like A Prayer.

Cliff Burton.
My first obsession and who got me into the bass instead of the guitar.
Ive always wanted to be able to play Disposable Heros the way he plays.

Jason Newstead.
My favorite tones and amazing use of double-stops.
Astronomy, and all of Load are his best work.

Geezer Butler
I honed my techniques based on his playing. Very aggressive and yet musical. Meat and Potatoes kind of style.
He does variations on the same phrase just like Cliff Burton, like a bassplayer with ADD/HD

The bassplayer from Van Halen.
Another respectable meat-and-potatoes player that just plays the right notes and drives the band very well.

Xavier Rudd’s bassplayer.
I want his sound.
Very lively playing while living in the pocket.

John Myung.
His work on Images and Words as well as his instructional video always pushed me to play better. Solar Groove is something I play on every bass that I try out.

Moe from Canned Heat.
Amazing energy. Classically trained yet explorative (psychedelics)
I love playing along to their Fried Hockey Boogie.

Ted Lundstrom
Does great work in Scandinavian Metal.

The bassplayer from Garbage.
His playing always challenges and inspires/motivates me.

The player from Ten Years After.
Awesome energy. Influenced my technique and style as well.

Flea’s work on Jagged Little Pill is epic and way underrated.

Steffan of DMB
Awesome, free-spirited playing coming from classical training.

Krishna Das’ bassplayer.
Another meat-and-potatoes player who just sits in the groove and plays only the notes that the song needs.

Tony Levin.
In The Air Tonight, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, his solo stuff - all of it amazing.
Im so glad I got to see him live back in the late-2000’s. Just a groove master. Very down to earth too.


If all of that is the case, then by logical extension you might like this bass player's playing in this band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlI_RbQmN8U
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby gumbynotpokey » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:20 am

Wow. What a brilliant player.

Here's the band called The Waitresses. You might remember their famous song "I Know What Boys Like".

Don't scoff. Listen to this super-smart playing.

Bassist is Tracy Wormworth later of B-52's fame. Wow. Killer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nud2TQNahaU

Here's their famous one for your convenience. Killer tone too. Wow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsneH0mOq-0
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Re: Bass player(s) you dig and why

Postby colossal » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:14 pm

Geddy Lee
Chris Squire
John Entwistle
John Paul Jones
Justin Chancellor
Jimmy Haslip
Jimmy Johnson


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